Robert Agostinelli’s response to WSJ Brett Stephens: “I Am Not Sorry the CIA Waterboarded”
Good start to the year, found this on the Wall Street Journal from Robert Agostinelli. First is the actual article from Bret Stephens – followed by the response. I found it very interesting. CA
Wall Street Journal
I Am Not Sorry the CIA Waterboarded
Dick Cheney says he would “do it again in a minute.” He’s right.
By BRET STEPHENS –
I am not sorry Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the operational mastermind of 9/11, was waterboarded 183 times. KSM also murdered Wall Street Journal reporter Danny Pearl in 2002. He boasted about it: “I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew,” he said after his capture.
I am sorry KSM remains alive nearly 12 years after his capture. He has been let off far too lightly. As for his waterboarding, it never would have happened if he had been truthful with his captors. It stopped as soon as he became cooperative. As far as I’m concerned, he waterboarded himself.
I am not sorry the CIA went to the edge of the law in the aftermath of 9/11 to prevent further mass-casualty attacks on the U.S. I am not sorry that going to the edge meant, as Sen. Dianne Feinstein put it in 2002, doing “some things that historically we have not wanted to do to protect ourselves.” I don’t suppose she was talking about removing our shoes at airport security.
I am sorry we weren’t willing to do those “things” before 3,000 people had their lives unnaturally ended on Sept. 11, 2001.
I am not sorry Osama bin Laden died by an American bullet. John Brennan , the CIA director, delivered a master class in rhetorical obfuscation masquerading as epistemology when he waffled last week about the quality of intelligence yielded by the interrogations of KSM and other high-value detainees. But several former directors and deputy directors of the CIA have all attested to the link between KSM’s interrogation and the identification of bin Laden’s courier.
I am sorry that the Feinstein Report, which failed to interview those directors and thus has the credibility of a Rolling Stone article, seeks to deny this. Maybe Sabrina Rubin Erdely, author of the discredited University of Virginia gang-rape story and a pro at failing to interview key witnesses, will find a new career in Sen. Feinstein’s office.
I am not sorry that President Obama has ordered drone strikes on hundreds of terrorist suspects hiding in Pakistan, Yemen and other places. I am not sorry he has done so despite the fact that the strikes inevitably have killed hundreds and perhaps thousands of their associates, many of whom were either innocent of wrongdoing or had committed no crime deserving of death from 30,000 feet. This is the nature of war.
I am sorry that we are now having a national convulsion over the fact that the CIA captured, detained, interrogated and in at least two cases accidentally killed two detainees. This is undoubtedly wrong and merits apology and compensation. But how this is any worse than what Mr. Obama routinely brags about doing with drones is beyond me.
I am not sorry that Dick Cheney told NBC’s Chuck Todd this Sunday that, in the matter of enhanced interrogation techniques, he would “do it again in a minute.” The former vice president seems to feel none of the need for the easy moral preening that is the characteristic political reflex of our age.
I am sorry that Mr. Cheney, and every other supporter of enhanced interrogation techniques, has to defend the practices as if they were torture. They are not. Waterboarding is part of the military’s standard course in Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape, or SERE. Tens of thousands of U.S. servicemen have gone through it. To describe this as “torture” is to strip the word of its meaning.
I am not sorry that Google makes it easy to recall what the political class had to say about KSM in the immediate aftermath of his capture. Here is a noteworthy exchange between Sen. Jay Rockefeller, Democrat of West Virginia, and CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on March 2, 2003:
Blitzer: “There has been speculation, Sen. Rockefeller, in the press that U.S. authorities, given the restrictions on torture, might hand over Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his colleagues to a third country, a friendly Arab state, Jordan, Egypt, some country like that, where the restrictions against torture are not in existence.”
Rockefeller: “I don’t know that. I can’t comment on that. And if I did know it, I wouldn’t comment on it. [Laughter.] But I wouldn’t rule it out. I wouldn’t take anything off the table where he is concerned, because this is the man who has killed hundreds and hundreds of Americans over the last 10 years.”
I am sorry that Sen. Rockefeller saw nothing amiss with the idea of handing over KSM to the Cairo Cattle-Prod Crew. This is rightly known as torture-by-proxy. It is wrong.
I am not sorry that Sen. Feinstein went ahead and released her report. In its partisanship, its certitudes, its omissions of reportage and recommendation, and its attempt to seem authoritative merely by being verbose, it has reopened a necessary debate that was nearly closed—and nearly lost. Eventually we will have another mass-casualty attack on U.S. soil. We’ll need better than Ms. Feinstein’s insipid shibboleths to answer it.
And for that, I am sorry—for all of us.
And now for Roberts response – Priceless. CA
Robert Agostinelli’s Response to WSJ’s Brett Stephens: “I Am Not Sorry the CIA Waterboarded” December 23-25,2014
We are not only “Not Sorry” for using enhanced interrogation tactics against our enemies; we actually wish they had gone further.
KSM and his like are not jay walkers they are maniacal cold blooded indiscriminate murders. With no moral bounds, prisoner of a 7th century screw ball dogma full of hate and evil venom. They have attacked our nation and our allies with an unabashed and relentless commitment to our undoing. It is the most frontal assault on our life , liberty and pursuit of happiness since the evil Nazi regime declared war on us.
Phonies like Senators Rockefeller or Feinstein are grotesque in their faux concern regarding the nobility of our values. Their reckless aid to our enemies merely masquerades as concern over their invented moral code while inciting and emboldening the evil doers to press us harder.
Worse these traitors serve to disclose our tactics allowing enemies to prepare themselves for capture while making our own brave operators hesitate, concerned that they could be prosecuted by these would be do-gooders.
KSM beheaded Danny Pearl, why? Because he existed. An existential threat is one that takes our survival to the limit; limits our decency could never provoke in response. These are necessary tactics of self-defense and should not hesitate to shatter their norms until they break. To do less merely offers sucer to the serpent allowing to strike a mortal blow. This is known as suicide. For this we are sorry; we will not agree: ever.
Robert F. Agostinelli